Wuzzy wrote:
> Can you please give an example of using this word?

Hello! Yes indeed; I just added a couple of examples to the definition. (I
also added a synonymous word "kaidza", I've yet too choose which one I
prefer; "dzadza" sounds a little childish. :p)

The two examples I gave mean the same thing, but phrased differently:
• li ro dzadza lo ka ce'u ganai mabru gi danlu
• li su'o pa dzadza lo ka ce'u mabru gi'enai danlu kei naku

In the second case, the quantification statement is under the scope of
"naku", despite the fact that "naku" is at the end of the sentence,
because naku is _outside_ the quantified property (which has been closed
with kei. In this sentence, you can freely move "naku" around as long as
you do not move it into the quantified property (if you do so, the meaning
will change accordingly).

More generally, all the scopes can be rewritten as nested bridi levels.
For example, naku roda naku xunre = Not everything is not red = It is
not the case that every thing X is such that it is not the case that X is
red = narje'u fa lo du'u li ro dzadza lo ka narje'u fa lo du'u ce'u
xunre . (Here you can probably replace narje'u with jitfa.)

I hope this helped. :)

(I'll probably write a cleaner explanation of how to expand scopes into
nested bridi levels somewhere.)

Comment #3: Re: Request for example

Ilmen (Mon Aug 18 11:13:10 2014)

I'm sorry for the broken links, I intended to surround my example sentences with curly brackets, which resulted in those awful dead links. u'u I can't edit my own message, malmabla. =q

Comment #4: Re: Request for example

Wuzzy (Mon Aug 18 13:22:37 2014)

Thanks a lot, yeah this helped me understand this thing. Good entry btw.

Comment #5: Re: Request for example

Alex Burka (Wed Aug 20 00:19:30 2014)

I vote for kaidza, btw. We don't have a history of reduplication and personally I find dzadza hard to say :) Ilmen wrote: > Wuzzy wrote: > > Can you please give an example of using this word? > > Hello! Yes indeed; I just added a couple of examples to the definition. (I > also added a synonymous word "kaidza", I've yet too choose which one I > prefer; "dzadza" sounds a little childish. :p) > > The two examples I gave mean the same thing, but phrased differently: > • li ro dzadza lo ka ce'u ganai mabru gi danlu > • li su'o pa dzadza lo ka ce'u mabru gi'enai danlu kei naku > > In the second case, the quantification statement is under the scope of > "naku", despite the fact that "naku" is at the end of the sentence, > because naku is _outside_ the quantified property (which has been closed > with kei. In this sentence, you can freely move "naku" around as long as > you do not move it into the quantified property (if you do so, the meaning > will change accordingly). > > More generally, all the scopes can be rewritten as nested bridi levels. > For example, naku roda naku xunre = Not everything is not red = It is > not the case that every thing X is such that it is not the case that X is > red = narje'u fa lo du'u li ro dzadza lo ka narje'u fa lo du'u ce'u > xunre . (Here you can probably replace narje'u with jitfa.) > > I hope this helped. :) > > (I'll probably write a cleaner explanation of how to expand scopes into > nested bridi levels somewhere.)