merrybot wrote:
> gleki wrote:
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> > > > > > > gleki wrote:
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> > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ
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> > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma
> > could
> > > > just
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > cmadi'ave'u
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo
> rules.
> > > > With
> > > > > > rafybri this is changed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and
> > > besides
> > > > > dictionaries and asking exist
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular.
> > >
> > >
> > > there's no difference morphologically
> >
> >
> > If you see jve or zve/I/o/u or fVf rafsi you immediately know it's a
> > rafybrisni and understand you don't need a dictionary to convert it to
a
> > deep gismu structure.
>
>
zgikemfi'inalka'esefsysajyke'eJVEkemsefsyda'atoiflike'eJVEjagborkemjilryJV
> Esefsyborxenze'a (link:
>
zgikemfi'inalka'esefsysajyke'ejvekemsefsyda'atoiflike'ejvejagborkemjilryj
> vesefsyborxenze'a) contains several jve rafsi but is not a rafybrisni


I thought the explanation was clear enough what rafybri is.
rafybri is just bridi compressed into lujvo that is unambiguously
translated into a bridi.

ve'urzvocma = vecnu fo su'o da xi rau cmalu

cmajvemle = cmalu je melbi