Awr. I mean, I can understand if the community thinks this is redundant
alongside akti, but well, "choose your disaster": 1. learn a slate of
zi'evla: akti, aktigau, na'akti, na'aktigau, not formed based on
preestablished lujvo-formation rules, 2. Use the zevlyjvo akti'ygau,
naly'akti, naly'aktigau, which adds additional syllables (or even
worse, zei-lujvo) or 3. have a gismu.

Comment #2: Re: Downvoted?

Jonathan (Fri Aug 21 11:35:51 2015)

naly'akti'ygau, I mean.

Comment #3: Re: Downvoted?

Jonathan (Fri Aug 21 12:13:46 2015)

ta'o Yes, I know aktygau is considered a valid zevlyjvo, but I'm a bit worried about using a regular derivational affix like -gau- with VCCV zi'evla that way. It means that if e.g. akta happens to be defined differently, then which word the -gau- lujvo is meant to be derived from becomes less transparent.

Comment #9: Re: Downvoted? Curtis W Franks (Sat Aug 22 21:20:50 2015) spheniscine wrote: > ta'o Yes, I know aktygau is considered a valid zevlyjvo, but I'm a > bit worried about using a regular derivational affix like -gau- with VCCV > zi'evla that way. It means that if e.g. akta happens to be defined > differently, then which word the -gau- lujvo is meant to be derived from > becomes less transparent. I have been laughed at for trying to avoid this problem.

Comment #4: Re: Downvoted?

Wuzzy (Fri Aug 21 14:48:54 2015)

?Disaster #4?: narca'acando

Comment #5: Re: Downvoted? Jonathan (Fri Aug 21 15:03:12 2015) Well, yes, no offense intended, but those lujvo are kinda long for a concept as fundamental to modern life as "turned on"; not to mention needing a negator for the positive case. Comment #10: Re: Downvoted? DE [Ether] (Tue Dec 20 14:34:14 2022) Wuzzy wrote: > [...] narca'acando I think the most jbosarxe thing is to use narcando, but it's somewhat awkward. One interpretation would be that it's not very jbosarxe to be vauge in the particular manner of akta, but really, lojban doesn't have an animate/inanimate distinction for activeness, and trying to force one with <ca'a>/≪cabra≫ is just awkward, on top of cando not having a short terminal rafsi.

... I just realised that this word is probably too similar to "cactus"

... erm... katci it is then...

Comment #7: Re: Wow

gleki (Sat Aug 22 13:43:02 2015)

spheniscine wrote: > ... I just realised that this word is probably too similar to "cactus" > > ... erm... katci it is then... old proposal of mine: just postulate that let's say letter z- can replace . in all .VCCV fu'ivla which would save one syllable when attaching prefixes like nar-, nal- ... getting narzaktygau for "to turn off"

Comment #8: Re: Wow Jonathan (Sat Aug 22 15:22:25 2015) Unfortunately that would require us to avoid possible collisions like aste/asta/zasti...