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Discussion of "oi'u"
Comment #1:
why not .oi + UI4?
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gleki (Wed Aug 22 10:25:43 2018)
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Comment #2:
Re: why not .oi + UI4?
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Lake (Wed Aug 22 16:02:51 2018)
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gleki wrote: >
I can think of several reasons: oi ro'o covers a broader kind of physical discomfort than specifically "experiencing pain", and also pain might not even be oi-worthy in some cases (e.g. masochism).
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Comment #3:
what is oi'unai?
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gleki (Thu Aug 23 05:08:36 2018)
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if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats the reverse thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification
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Comment #5:
Re: what is oi'unai?
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Lake (Fri Aug 24 23:50:28 2018)
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gleki wrote: > if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats the > reverse thing? > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification
Pain relief, I would guess: feeling an aspirin start to work, putting an ice pack on a bruise, getting an injection of morphine, etc.
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Comment #6:
Re: what is oi'unai?
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gleki (Sat Aug 25 04:45:23 2018)
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lalxu wrote: > gleki wrote: > > if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats the > > reverse thing? > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification > > Pain relief, I would guess: feeling an aspirin start to work, putting an > ice pack on a bruise, getting an injection of morphine, etc.
then what is oi'ubu'onai?
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Comment #7:
Re: what is oi'unai?
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Curtis W Franks (Sat Aug 25 19:53:47 2018)
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gleki wrote: > lalxu wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats the > > > reverse thing? > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification > > > > Pain relief, I would guess: feeling an aspirin start to work, putting an > > ice pack on a bruise, getting an injection of morphine, etc. > > > then what is oi'ubu'onai?
Well, there is psychic/emotional pain and that can be relieved. So, this word can be general with respect to type.
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Comment #8:
Re: what is oi'unai?
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gleki (Sat Aug 25 20:23:49 2018)
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krtisfranks wrote: > gleki wrote: > > lalxu wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats > the > > > > reverse thing? > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification > > > > > > Pain relief, I would guess: feeling an aspirin start to work, putting
> an > > > ice pack on a bruise, getting an injection of morphine, etc. > > > > > > then what is oi'ubu'onai? > > Well, there is psychic/emotional pain and that can be relieved. So, this > word can be general with respect to type.
i dont understand how oi'unai differs from oi'ubu'onai and where to use which
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Comment #9:
Re: what is oi'unai?
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Curtis W Franks (Sat Aug 25 20:57:12 2018)
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gleki wrote: > krtisfranks wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > lalxu wrote: > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats > > the > > > > > reverse thing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification > > > > > > > > Pain relief, I would guess: feeling an aspirin start to work, putting > > > an > > > > ice pack on a bruise, getting an injection of morphine, etc. > > > > > > > > > then what is oi'ubu'onai? > > > > Well, there is psychic/emotional pain and that can be relieved. So, this > > word can be general with respect to type. > > > i dont understand how oi'unai differs from oi'ubu'onai and where to use > which
Well, there may be no difference. But I personally think that the end of pain and the onset of soothing/relief/comfort can be distinct. If I have shoulder pain and it slowly fades away by disuse (but does not necessarily actually feel good), then this experience is different from putting some Icy Hot or something on it.
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Comment #10:
Re: what is oi'unai?
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gleki (Mon Aug 27 11:42:58 2018)
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krtisfranks wrote: > gleki wrote: > > krtisfranks wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > lalxu wrote: > > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > > if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then > whats > > > the > > > > > > reverse thing? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification > > > > > > > > > > Pain relief, I would guess: feeling an aspirin start to work, > putting > > > > > an > > > > > ice pack on a bruise, getting an injection of morphine, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > then what is oi'ubu'onai? > > > > > > Well, there is psychic/emotional pain and that can be relieved. So, > this > > > word can be general with respect to type. > > > > > > i dont understand how oi'unai differs from oi'ubu'onai and where to
> use > > which > > Well, there may be no difference. But I personally think that the end of > pain and the onset of soothing/relief/comfort can be distinct. If I have > shoulder pain and it slowly fades away by disuse (but does not necessarily > actually feel good), then this experience is different from putting some > Icy Hot or something on it.
And how is Icy Hot different? That the pain go away in noticeably, in a short time?
then oi'uxu'onai/oi'uxu'o?
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Comment #4:
what is oi'unai?
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gleki (Thu Aug 23 05:08:36 2018)
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if oi'u is nociceptive/inflammatory / pathological pain then whats the reverse thing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain#Classification
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