(Thank you for better translation)

I wonder whether there is a better expression of x_4(by calender).

The splicing method depends on x4.

For instance:
if they will splice time by "day", most people regarded a time block as
0:00 - 23:59 GMT. Probably, time is merely spliced into 9:12 - 9:11, for
example.

The style/method of splicing is dependent on the speaker's custom/culture.
It should be specified by x_4. (however, like berti_3, a concrete value
merely fills with x_4, I think)

Also, many time-interval words [day, month, year, hour, minute, second,
century, and so on] are associated with splicing. Maybe, We first splice
time, and then we use value which a time-block made by splicing has, which
is a time-interval.

Thus, moi'o_4 is similar to nanca_3, masti_3, djedi_3, cacra_3, mentu_3,
snidu_3..

Sorry for my poor English. I hope that you get what I meant.

mu'o

Comment #2: Re: better translation x4

Alex Burka (Tue Nov 18 23:58:41 2014)

cogas wrote: > (Thank you for better translation) > > I wonder whether there is a better expression of x_4(by calender). > > The splicing method depends on x4. > > For instance: > if they will splice time by "day", most people regarded a time block as > 0:00 - 23:59 GMT. Probably, time is merely spliced into 9:12 - 9:11, for > example. > > The style/method of splicing is dependent on the speaker's custom/culture. > It should be specified by x_4. (however, like berti_3, a concrete value > merely fills with x_4, I think) > > Also, many time-interval words [day, month, year, hour, minute, second, > century, and so on] are associated with splicing. Maybe, We first splice > time, and then we use value which a time-block made by splicing has, which > is a time-interval. > > Thus, moi'o_4 is similar to nanca_3, masti_3, djedi_3, cacra_3, mentu_3, > snidu_3.. > > Sorry for my poor English. I hope that you get what I meant. > > mu'o I think we need to come up with a way to fill moi'o_4 in Lojban. Ideally at least two ways (the default, and something else). Then it would be easier to write a definition. As it is, I don't know how to fill the place. So do you have any examples of moi'o_4 in mind?

Comment #3: Re: better translation x4 Shotaro (Mon Jan 19 03:01:40 2015) durka42 wrote: > > I think we need to come up with a way to fill moi'o_4 in Lojban. Ideally > at least two ways (the default, and something else). Then it would be > easier to write a definition. As it is, I don't know how to fill the > place. > > So do you have any examples of moi'o_4 in mind? More casually, for example: (In Skype or telephone) I will sleep during this day from your point of view (your location). I will sleep during this day from my point of view (my location). If it is 22:00 19/1 on "your" location and it is 3:00 20/1 on "my" location, how long am "I" going to sleep? 2 hrs or 21 hrs? I think that x4 helps in case of that. however, probably, this case is not major to use x4 in. Quite rare cases (and quite casual). x4 = by calender, by standard, and, ... I'm afraid that I am not able to say well. oisai