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Discussion of "cimnyterjunta"
Comment #1:
Issues
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Curtis W Franks (Sun Mar 2 20:46:44 2014)
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"Black hole" is really a time when I would prefer to use a zi'evla. Black holes are not black, have a finite mass and bound a finite volume (in one sense, even though the gravitational distorting of spacetime is- plausibly- infinite at the singularity), and need not originate from stars. They are entities of themselves.
I have been thinking about it for years but have not yet found a solution that I fully enjoyed. I personally would prefer to base it on cliva, tolcu'i, and canlu (zo'o although I have considered pacruxtutra!). But, again, I would like to make it a zi'evla.
Furthermore, I was thinking that it would be nice to have at least one terbri for the specification of properties/state. Black holes have four hairs: energy-mass (scalar; the most important), linear momentum (vector; arguably least important), angular momentum (vector), and electric charge (scalar); specification of information contained, location, and origin (if known), and other things could be good too.
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Comment #2:
Re: Issues
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Curtis W Franks (Sun Mar 2 20:52:30 2014)
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> I have been thinking about it for years but have not yet found a solution > that I fully enjoyed. I personally would prefer to base it on cliva, > tolcu'i, and canlu (zo'o although I have considered pacruxtutra!). > But, again, I would like to make it a zi'evla.
By the way, these words actually better characterize the event horizon (although I rather dislike the prosaïc style of such a description in comparison with the poetic and rather-hard-to-capture accuracy of the English word). The black hole is the physical entity that has an event horizon and other regions defined by the aforementioned properties ('hairs'), rather like an atom can have overall charge, spin, etc. and these properties determine its appearance in other interactions.
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Comment #4:
Re: Issues
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Curtis W Franks (Sun Mar 2 21:00:44 2014)
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krtisfranks wrote: > > I have been thinking about it for years but have not yet found a > solution > > that I fully enjoyed. I personally would prefer to base it on cliva, > > tolcu'i, and canlu (zo'o although I have considered pacruxtutra!). > > But, again, I would like to make it a zi'evla. > > By the way, these words actually better characterize the event horizon > (although I rather dislike the prosaïc style of such a description in > comparison with the poetic and rather-hard-to-capture accuracy of the > English word). The black hole is the physical entity that has an event > horizon and other regions defined by the aforementioned properties > ('hairs'), rather like an atom can have overall charge, spin, etc. and > these properties determine its appearance in other interactions.
"Ergosphere" could likewise be rendered with cukli'u or some other way of saying "orbit", "move" (slightly too generic), "stop" (somewhat bad in Lojban) and "required"/"impossible" (depending on previous choice). But, again, should be zi'evla. (Movement relative to outside pointlike observer would be implied).
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Comment #3:
Re: Issues
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Curtis W Franks (Sun Mar 2 20:57:20 2014)
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Dimensionality of the black hole probably would be good to specify too; luckily canlu does not exclude higher-dimension possibilities.
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