junpen wrote:
> jongausib wrote:
> > Furthermore I think that cognac (beverage) is a more common word than
> > konjac, or? (by the way the word for konjac in swedish is munkhätta
> > (according to sv.wikipedia), which litterally means monk's hood).
>
> (Isn't munkhätta the swedish word for Arum, a genus in the Arum family
> (Araceae), while knölkalla is the word for Amorphophallus, a genus in
the
> Arum family (Araceae)?)
>
> In Japan "konjac" (plant/ food) is a word as common as "cognac"
> (beverage).
>
> > And ooops... konjac itself in the latin name seems here to be either a
> > korean or japanese word, so I don't know the etymology of that word.
>
> I believe that the word comes from Chinese.
>
> > Cognac (beverage) on the other hand is a culturally marked word, and
> > therefore should deliberately remain as such in lojban, I think.
>
> "Without-form-penis-plant" sounds to me culturally marked, too.

endless discussion;) well, latin may be culturally marked too, but that's
the international biological standard for name of species (lojbanized
latin names would still be recognized as part of the taxonomy). But in the
case with konjaku (there the latin name has borrowed from chinese), so
couldn't we just translate the chinese word? I think the more lojbanized
words the better, and so we can reserve fu'ivla for words like samurai,
ninja, sushi, nyckelharpa, dalahäst, halloumi, cognac and other words
which would loose their cultural meaning if you translate them. In a
dispute like this, who will decide which should be hold for the right
definition, anyway?