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Discussion of "konjaku"
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Comment #2:
Not brandy
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Pierre Abbat (Mon Aug 8 18:12:32 2011)
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lo konjaku is not brandy, it's a kind of arum.
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Comment #4:
Re: Not brandy
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Sebastian Frjds (Wed Aug 10 16:34:11 2011)
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phma wrote:
> lo konjaku is not brandy, it's a kind of arum.
Cognac is, according to swedish wikipedia, a type of brandy (spirits of
grape) from a limited area around the city of Cognac. But I'm not an
expert...
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Comment #6:
Re: Not brandy
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Pierre Abbat (Wed Aug 10 17:16:19 2011)
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I said "arum", not "a rum" :) An arum is a plant with flowers borne on a
spadix, at least some with male flowers and female flowers on different
parts of the spadix, which is enveloped by a spathe. Taro (samcrtaro, in
the see also section) is another arum used as food.
To me "konjaku" sounds pretty close to both "cognac" and "konnyaku".
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Comment #3:
Mistranslation
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Andrew Piekarski (Tue Aug 9 20:59:23 2011)
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Cognac is koinka.
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Comment #5:
Re: Mistranslation
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Sebastian Frjds (Wed Aug 10 16:36:08 2011)
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totus wrote:
> Cognac is koinka.
I think konjaku sounds more phonemic similar to it's french counterpart
than koinka. And it is a culturally fu'ivla after all.
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Comment #7:
Re: Mistranslation
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okaujunpen (Thu Aug 11 14:10:15 2011)
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In Japanese the words for "konjac" and "cognac" sound similar to each
other too.
[koɲːak(ɯ)] "konjac" (eller konjakknölkalla på svenska, växt som
används som vanlig mat i Japan, betydelsen av ordet konjaku på lojban
som phma skapat)
[koɲakː(ɯ)] "cognac" (konjak på svenska, brandy, druvsprit)
(and even:
[koNjak(ɯ)] "promise to marry" (förlovning))
But konjaku in lojban has [ʒ] sound and it doesn't sound so similar to me
to the Japanese counterparts of either "konjac" or "cognac".
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