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Discussion of "konjaku"

Comment #1: Probable mistranslation
Arnt Richard Johansen (Mon Aug 8 08:11:50 2011)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konjac

Comment #2: Not brandy
Pierre Abbat (Mon Aug 8 18:12:32 2011)

lo konjaku is not brandy, it's a kind of arum.

Comment #4: Re: Not brandy
Sebastian Frjds (Wed Aug 10 16:34:11 2011)

phma wrote:
> lo konjaku is not brandy, it's a kind of arum.


Cognac is, according to swedish wikipedia, a type of brandy (spirits of
grape) from a limited area around the city of Cognac. But I'm not an
expert...

Comment #6: Re: Not brandy
Pierre Abbat (Wed Aug 10 17:16:19 2011)

I said "arum", not "a rum" :) An arum is a plant with flowers borne on a
spadix, at least some with male flowers and female flowers on different
parts of the spadix, which is enveloped by a spathe. Taro (samcrtaro, in
the see also section) is another arum used as food.

To me "konjaku" sounds pretty close to both "cognac" and "konnyaku".

Comment #3: Mistranslation
Andrew Piekarski (Tue Aug 9 20:59:23 2011)

Cognac is koinka.

Comment #5: Re: Mistranslation
Sebastian Frjds (Wed Aug 10 16:36:08 2011)

totus wrote:
> Cognac is koinka.


I think konjaku sounds more phonemic similar to it's french counterpart
than koinka. And it is a culturally fu'ivla after all.

Comment #7: Re: Mistranslation
okaujunpen (Thu Aug 11 14:10:15 2011)

In Japanese the words for "konjac" and "cognac" sound similar to each
other too.

[koɲːak(ɯ)] "konjac" (eller konjakknölkalla på svenska, växt som
används som vanlig mat i Japan, betydelsen av ordet konjaku på lojban
som phma skapat)

[koɲakː(ɯ)] "cognac" (konjak på svenska, brandy, druvsprit)

(and even:
[koNjak(ɯ)] "promise to marry" (förlovning))

But konjaku in lojban has [ʒ] sound and it doesn't sound so similar to me
to the Japanese counterparts of either "konjac" or "cognac".

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