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Discussion of "rafybri"
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Comment #7:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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evie (Sat Jan 27 19:19:37 2024)
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gleki wrote: > merrybot wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma could just > be > > cmadi'ave'u > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo rules. With > rafybri this is changed
lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and besides dictionaries and asking exist
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Comment #8:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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gleki (Sun Jan 28 07:49:54 2024)
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merrybot wrote: > gleki wrote: > > merrybot wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma could just > > be > > > cmadi'ave'u > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo rules. With > > rafybri this is changed > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and besides > dictionaries and asking exist
Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular.
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Comment #9:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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evie (Mon Jan 29 00:40:23 2024)
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gleki wrote: > merrybot wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma could > just > > > be > > > > cmadi'ave'u > > > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo rules. > With > > > rafybri this is changed > > > > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and besides > > dictionaries and asking exist > > > Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular.
there's no difference morphologically
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Comment #10:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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gleki (Mon Jan 29 02:22:49 2024)
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merrybot wrote: > gleki wrote: > > merrybot wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma could > > just > > > > be > > > > > cmadi'ave'u > > > > > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo rules. > > With > > > > rafybri this is changed > > > > > > > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and > besides > > > dictionaries and asking exist > > > > > > Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular. > > > there's no difference morphologically
If you see jve or zve/I/o/u or fVf rafsi you immediately know it's a rafybrisni and understand you don't need a dictionary to convert it to a deep gismu structure.
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Comment #12:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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evie (Mon Jan 29 05:25:56 2024)
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gleki wrote: > merrybot wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma > could > > > just > > > > > be > > > > > > cmadi'ave'u > > > > > > > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo rules. > > > With > > > > > rafybri this is changed > > > > > > > > > > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and > > besides > > > > dictionaries and asking exist > > > > > > > > > Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular. > > > > > > there's no difference morphologically > > > If you see jve or zve/I/o/u or fVf rafsi you immediately know it's a > rafybrisni and understand you don't need a dictionary to convert it to a > deep gismu structure.
zgikemfi'inalka'esefsysajyke'eJVEkemsefsyda'atoiflike'eJVEjagborkemjilryJV Esefsyborxenze'a (link: zgikemfi'inalka'esefsysajyke'ejvekemsefsyda'atoiflike'ejvejagborkemjilryj vesefsyborxenze'a) contains several jve rafsi but is not a rafybrisni
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Comment #13:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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la gleki noi jmina lo ponjo smuni (Mon Jan 29 09:02:10 2024)
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merrybot wrote: > gleki wrote: > > merrybot wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma > > could > > > > just > > > > > > be > > > > > > > cmadi'ave'u > > > > > > > > > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo > rules. > > > > With > > > > > > rafybri this is changed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and > > > besides > > > > > dictionaries and asking exist > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular. > > > > > > > > > there's no difference morphologically > > > > > > If you see jve or zve/I/o/u or fVf rafsi you immediately know it's a > > rafybrisni and understand you don't need a dictionary to convert it to a > > deep gismu structure. > > zgikemfi'inalka'esefsysajyke'eJVEkemsefsyda'atoiflike'eJVEjagborkemjilryJV > Esefsyborxenze'a (link: > zgikemfi'inalka'esefsysajyke'ejvekemsefsyda'atoiflike'ejvejagborkemjilryj > vesefsyborxenze'a) contains several jve rafsi but is not a rafybrisni
I thought the explanation was clear enough what rafybri is. rafybri is just bridi compressed into lujvo that is unambiguously translated into a bridi.
ve'urzvocma = vecnu fo su'o da xi rau cmalu
cmajvemle = cmalu je melbi
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Comment #11:
Re: also how do you even use this word
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gleki (Mon Jan 29 02:22:56 2024)
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merrybot wrote: > gleki wrote: > > merrybot wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > > merrybot wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/lojban/c/64L-yY8ete8/m/kgWQbXt6Q-QJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > i admit i don't see why these need to exist? like venzvocma could > > just > > > > be > > > > > cmadi'ave'u > > > > > > > > You can never say if a lujvo is a jvajvo or what are jvajvo rules. > > With > > > > rafybri this is changed > > > > > > > > > lujvo need not be regular to begin with - jvonu'oblo etc - and > besides > > > dictionaries and asking exist > > > > > > Yes. Whereas rafybri are always regular. > > > there's no difference morphologically
If you see jve or zve/I/o/u or fVf rafsi you immediately know it's a rafybrisni and understand you don't need a dictionary to convert it to a deep gismu structure.
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