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Discussion of "cmagnitude"
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Comment #7: OT: Order of magnitude <- Re: carmi?
Curtis W Franks (Sun Jul 12 06:16:35 2015)

gleki wrote:

Comment #8: OT: Order of magnitude
Curtis W Franks (Sun Jul 12 06:20:17 2015)

For some reason my previous comment does not appear until I try to reply to
it. So, I am going to attempt to post it again; hopefully, it works this
time.

gleki wrote:
> carmi isn't necessarily about brightness. When you work hard it's also
> carmi. carmi is too vague.
>
> I guess most important meanings of "magnitude" are:
> 1. size/degree (cisni? gradu?), grandeco
> 2. vector magnitude (do we have a prefix for vector? or just for math?)
> 3. brightness
> 4. Richter scale magnitude, ni nejni?
> 5. order of magnitude, grandoordo
>
> I think all of them can be nailed down to gradu which of course isn't a

> solution.
>
> Maybe, magni- should become a new pseudo-prefix, e.g.
> 1. gradu
> 2. magninorma
> 3. magnigusni
> 4. magninejni
> 5. magnitenfo
>
> Sorry, those roots aren't my final proposals, just a thought.

This is a little off-topic, but what do you think about this definition for
the word for "order of magnitude":

Definition: x_1 (pure number) has order of magnitude x_2 for base x_3
(contextless default: 2, e, or ten) on scale/in system x_4 (si'o;
contextless default: logarithmic scale, of base x_3, with half of an order
of magnitude representing (x_3)^(1/2)).

Notes: If x1 is for a measured value with dimension, express it by the
(typically) second terbri of the unit and fill the first terbri thereof
using be; for example, x1 can be "le se mitre be lo nilcla be zo'e"; a
measured thing (such as the referent of "le mitre") cannot have order of
magnitude, but its measurement (le se mitre) can. Specify use of sigfigs
for x2 if necessary; typically, only an integer will be supplied (and it is
very commonly meant to be interpreted using sigfigs), but any real number
may be supplied to x2.

Comment #9: Re: OT: Order of magnitude
gleki (Sun Jul 12 07:01:09 2015)

krtisfranks wrote:
> For some reason my previous comment does not appear until I try to reply
to
> it. So, I am going to attempt to post it again; hopefully, it works this
> time.
>
> gleki wrote:
> > carmi isn't necessarily about brightness. When you work hard it's also
> > carmi. carmi is too vague.
> >
> > I guess most important meanings of "magnitude" are:
> > 1. size/degree (cisni? gradu?), grandeco
> > 2. vector magnitude (do we have a prefix for vector? or just for math?)
> > 3. brightness
> > 4. Richter scale magnitude, ni nejni?
> > 5. order of magnitude, grandoordo
> >
> > I think all of them can be nailed down to gradu which of course isn't
a
>
> > solution.
> >
> > Maybe, magni- should become a new pseudo-prefix, e.g.
> > 1. gradu
> > 2. magninorma
> > 3. magnigusni
> > 4. magninejni
> > 5. magnitenfo
> >
> > Sorry, those roots aren't my final proposals, just a thought.
>
> This is a little off-topic, but what do you think about this definition
for
> the word for "order of magnitude":
>
> Definition: x_1 (pure number) has order of magnitude x_2 for base x_3
> (contextless default: 2, e, or ten) on scale/in system x_4 (si'o;
> contextless default: logarithmic scale, of base x_3, with half of an
order
> of magnitude representing (x_3)^(1/2)).
>
> Notes: If x1 is for a measured value with dimension, express it by the
> (typically) second terbri of the unit and fill the first terbri thereof
> using be; for example, x1 can be "le se mitre be lo nilcla be zo'e"; a
> measured thing (such as the referent of "le mitre") cannot have order of
> magnitude, but its measurement (le se mitre) can. Specify use of sigfigs
> for x2 if necessary; typically, only an integer will be supplied (and it
is
> very commonly meant to be interpreted using sigfigs), but any real number

> may be supplied to x2.

please fill in all 4 sumti with something other than zo'e or "la ... [ku]"

 Comment #10: Re: OT: Order of magnitude Curtis W Franks (Sun Jul 12 08:25:01 2015) gleki wrote:> krtisfranks wrote:> > For some reason my previous comment does not appear until I try to reply > to> > it. So, I am going to attempt to post it again; hopefully, it works this > > time.> > > > gleki wrote:> > > carmi isn't necessarily about brightness. When you work hard it's also > > > carmi. carmi is too vague.> > > > > > I guess most important meanings of "magnitude" are:> > > 1. size/degree (cisni? gradu?), grandeco> > > 2. vector magnitude (do we have a prefix for vector? or just for math?)> > > 3. brightness> > > 4. Richter scale magnitude, ni nejni?> > > 5. order of magnitude, grandoordo> > > > > > I think all of them can be nailed down to gradu which of course isn't> a> > > > > solution.> > > > > > Maybe, magni- should become a new pseudo-prefix, e.g.> > > 1. gradu> > > 2. magninorma> > > 3. magnigusni> > > 4. magninejni> > > 5. magnitenfo> > > > > > Sorry, those roots aren't my final proposals, just a thought.> > > > This is a little off-topic, but what do you think about this definition> for> > the word for "order of magnitude":> > > > Definition: x_1 (pure number) has order of magnitude x_2 for base x_3 > > (contextless default: 2, e, or ten) on scale/in system x_4 (si'o; > > contextless default: logarithmic scale, of base x_3, with half of an > order > > of magnitude representing (x_3)^(1/2)).> > > > Notes: If x1 is for a measured value with dimension, express it by the > > (typically) second terbri of the unit and fill the first terbri thereof> > using be; for example, x1 can be "le se mitre be lo nilcla be zo'e"; a > > measured thing (such as the referent of "le mitre") cannot have order of > > magnitude, but its measurement (le se mitre) can. Specify use of sigfigs > > for x2 if necessary; typically, only an integer will be supplied (and it > is> > very commonly meant to be interpreted using sigfigs), but any real number> > > may be supplied to x2.> > > please fill in all 4 sumti with something other than zo'e or "la ... [ku]"le se mitre be le nilcla be la banli bliku po la .gizas. bei lo sraji cu magnitenfo li su'ai re li dau lo si'o dugri ciste kei be mi"The number of meters for measuring the length of the Great Pyramid of Gizain the vertical direction is of the order of magnitude 2 (sigfigs) in decimal base, using an idea of a logarithmic system, thought of by me"; more approximately: "The Great Pyramid of Giza is approximately one hundredmeters high, where I used a logarithmic scale for figuring that out".I am iffiest about my submission to the fourth terbri there.
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