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Discussion of "sei'i"
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Comment #1:
Justification
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Jonathan (Sun Jun 28 04:58:07 2015)
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The problem of CLL-defined lo'e vs le'e is quite similar to the problem of the veridicality distinction of the rest of the gadri, that lost popular favor and was overturned by xorlo.
lo'e is somewhat popular for generalizations, e.g. "Roses are red" (lo'e rozgu cu xunre). However this brings up a problem; is the "typical" rose actually red? There are plenty of roses that aren't actually red; this is, in fact, a stereotype. This makes correct usage of these gadri difficult, as it is often difficult to avoid all stereotypes when generalizing.
Thus, it might be much more practical to introduce sei'i as an intentional modifier to indicate whether the speaker is intentionally embracing or avoiding a stereotype.
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Comment #2:
Re: Justification
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Curtis W Franks (Sun Jun 28 05:26:01 2015)
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spheniscine wrote: > The problem of CLL-defined lo'e vs le'e is quite similar to the problem > of the veridicality distinction of the rest of the gadri, that lost popular > favor and was overturned by xorlo. > > lo'e is somewhat popular for generalizations, e.g. "Roses are red" (lo'e > rozgu cu xunre). However this brings up a problem; is the "typical" rose > actually red? There are plenty of roses that aren't actually red; this is, > in fact, a stereotype. This makes correct usage of these gadri difficult,
> as it is often difficult to avoid all stereotypes when generalizing. > > Thus, it might be much more practical to introduce sei'i as an > intentional modifier to indicate whether the speaker is intentionally > embracing or avoiding a stereotype.
Strongly supported here.
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