jbovlaste
a lojban dictionary editing system
User:
Pass:

Home
Get A Printable Dictionary
Search Best Words
Recent Changes
How You Can Help
valsi - All
valsi - Preferred Only
natlang - All
natlang - Preferred Only
Languages
XML Export
user Listing
Report Bugs
Utilities
Status
Help
Create Account
Discussion of "caltai"
[parent] [root]
Comment #1: How does this word differ from tarmi?
Curtis W Franks (Fri Jun 26 04:42:39 2015)

I would argue that all geometric shapes are idealized/conceptualized
shapes, and the fact that both are "of" something (x2) only strengthens
this direction. Meanwhile, I cannot think of any conceptualization of the
shape of some actually manifested entity as being anything other than its
geometric "ideal" form.

Comment #2: Re: How does this word differ from tarmi?
Curtis W Franks (Fri Jun 26 04:49:17 2015)

krtisfranks wrote:
> I would argue that all geometric shapes are idealized/conceptualized
> shapes, and the fact that both are "of" something (x2) only strengthens
> this direction. Meanwhile, I cannot think of any conceptualization of the

> shape of some actually manifested entity as being anything other than its

> geometric "ideal" form.

I would accept this definition being "x2 is the n-dimensional space-shape
of x2" (where n >= 3), which is quite another matter.

I guess that a model is not quite the same thing as a geometric figure, but
in my mind, they are close cousins. Lots of models have pictures and most
models have mathematics associated with them: it is a two-way street; the
distinction seems at best artificial. But, the more I think aloud, the more
I can see someone wanting a word for "geometric figure". In that case,
canlu is not the correct word for it, since it is restricted to
hypervolumes of dimension at least 3. But whatever word is chosen for this
purpose should be described as "geometric figure" not only "shape".

 Comment #3: Re: How does this word differ from tarmi? Jonathan (Fri Jun 26 12:30:27 2015) 1. tarmi can refer to any sort of "ideal form" or modelistic likeness, not just the physical / geometric form.2. I only based this lujvo on the existing lujvo caltaicmaci.
 Currently, jbovlaste will accept data for 69 languages. You are not logged in.

 recent changes jbovlaste main This is jbovlaste, the lojban dictionary system. The main code was last changed on Wed 07 Oct 2020 05:54:55 PM PDT. All content is public domain. By submitting content, you agree to place it in the public domain to the fullest extent allowed by local law. jbovlaste is an official project of the logical language group, and is now headed by Robin Lee Powell. E-mail him if you have any questions. care to log in?