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Comment #2:
Re: Operation when mixed in with fa'u
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Curtis W Franks (Sat Jan 17 23:21:01 2015)
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krtisfranks wrote: > I am not sure how «.a'y fa'u by fa'u cy fa'u dy broda zy fa'u'ai .ybu > fa'u xy fa'u'ai .uy» should be interpreted.
Or, for that matter, how «.a'y fa'u'ai by broda zy fa'u'ai by» should be interpreted (although the syntax at least is clear in this case).
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Comment #3:
Re: Operation when mixed in with fa'u
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Alex Burka (Mon Jan 19 04:57:40 2015)
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I don't know about the usefulness of this cmavo, but...
Seems to me fa'u is associative, and fa'u'ai is associative, but in combination they are not associative. Connectives are left-associative (see CLL 14.7).
krtisfranks wrote: > krtisfranks wrote: > > I am not sure how «.a'y fa'u by fa'u cy fa'u dy broda zy fa'u'ai .ybu > > fa'u xy fa'u'ai .uy» should be interpreted. >
fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u'ai(fa'u'ai(fa'u'ai(Z, Y), X), W) fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u'ai(fa'u'ai(fa'u(Y, Z), X), W) fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u'ai(fa'u(X, fa'u(Y, Z)), W) fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u(W, fa'u(X, fa'u(Y, Z)))
So I guess it works out to "A-B-C-D broda W-X-Y-Z". (If done in speech, it may also work out to your te cusku punching you in the face.)
> Or, for that matter, how «.a'y fa'u'ai by broda zy fa'u'ai by» should be > interpreted (although the syntax at least is clear in this case).
Seems to me it would be the same as "A-B broda Z-B" (or "B-A broda B-Z").
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Comment #4:
Re: Operation when mixed in with fa'u
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Curtis W Franks (Mon Jan 19 14:47:12 2015)
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durka42 wrote: > I don't know about the usefulness of this cmavo, but... > > Seems to me fa'u is associative, and fa'u'ai is associative, but in > combination they are not associative. Connectives are left-associative > (see CLL 14.7). > > krtisfranks wrote: > > krtisfranks wrote: > > > I am not sure how «.a'y fa'u by fa'u cy fa'u dy broda zy fa'u'ai .ybu > > > fa'u xy fa'u'ai .uy» should be interpreted. > > > > fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u'ai(fa'u'ai(fa'u'ai(Z, Y), X), W) > fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u'ai(fa'u'ai(fa'u(Y, Z), X), W) > fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u'ai(fa'u(X, fa'u(Y, Z)), W) > fa'u(fa'u(fa'u(A, B), C), D) broda fa'u(W, fa'u(X, fa'u(Y, Z))) > > So I guess it works out to "A-B-C-D broda W-X-Y-Z". (If done in speech, it > may also work out to your te cusku punching you in the face.) > > > Or, for that matter, how «.a'y fa'u'ai by broda zy fa'u'ai by» should > be > > interpreted (although the syntax at least is clear in this case). > > Seems to me it would be the same as "A-B broda Z-B" (or "B-A broda B-Z").
I agree. (I use this word('s equivalent) frequently enough in English.)
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