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Discussion of "ji'o'e"
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Comment #7: Re: .i ji'o'e
Curtis W Franks (Sat Jun 27 07:36:49 2015)

gleki wrote:
> krtisfranks wrote:
> > gleki wrote:
> > > how is .iji'o'e different from .i?
> >
> > I figure that just .i separates bridi without making any claim about
> > their relation to one another. They could be utterly unrelated. They
must
>
> > be explicitly connected together in order to guarantee some mutual
> > relationship, such as both being true together, one being derived
> logically
> > from the other, being mutually exclusive, etc. Of course, .iju
implies
> > that one claim is independent of the other (and it does not imply
> anything
> > about the reverse), but even independence is a relationship of sorts.
> Thus
> > .iji'o'e does explicitly guarantee a connection between the
statements,
>
> > even if it does not say what it is.
>
> I suppose variables declared using da or goi are preserved across
> iji'o'e sentences?

If they are preserved over .ije, then yes. This word is meant to function
exactly as (at least) je does, but without the semantics of je (being
elliptical/referencing any connective instead of merely "and").

Comment #8: Re: .i ji'o'e
gleki (Sat Jun 27 07:47:04 2015)

krtisfranks wrote:
> gleki wrote:
> > krtisfranks wrote:
> > > gleki wrote:
> > > > how is .iji'o'e different from .i?
> > >
> > > I figure that just .i separates bridi without making any claim
about
> > > their relation to one another. They could be utterly unrelated. They
> must
> >
> > > be explicitly connected together in order to guarantee some mutual
> > > relationship, such as both being true together, one being derived
> > logically
> > > from the other, being mutually exclusive, etc. Of course, .iju
> implies
> > > that one claim is independent of the other (and it does not imply
> > anything
> > > about the reverse), but even independence is a relationship of sorts.

> > Thus
> > > .iji'o'e does explicitly guarantee a connection between the
> statements,
> >
> > > even if it does not say what it is.
> >
> > I suppose variables declared using da or goi are preserved across
> > iji'o'e sentences?
>
> If they are preserved over .ije, then yes. This word is meant to
function
> exactly as (at least) je does, but without the semantics of je (being

> elliptical/referencing any connective instead of merely "and").


Another option could be to extend the grammar of STAG BO_CLAUSE so that "mi
do'e bo klama" becomes gendra.

Alta grammar now supports it instead of yours "mi ji'o'e do'e bo klama"
since joik_ek can now be elided.

The expansion is just mi klama i do'e bo do klama

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