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Discussion of "su'ei"
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Comment #3: Re: interaction with JA/A
gleki (Wed Dec 24 09:30:15 2014)

A copy reformatted:

se je = je. se exchanges the order of first two places.

broda je brode = brode se je broda

su'ei je. su'ei retains the order + exchanges the order + makes two
previous meanings joined with je since "su'ei = se xi vei pa *.e* re".

So "su'ei je" is just "[broda je brode] je ke [brode je broda] ke'e"

With other prepositions it should become more interesting:

"su'ei jonai" is "[broda jonai brode] je ke [brode jonai broda] ke'e"
Should we assume that this is self-contradiction or it's the same as
"broda jonai brode"?

"su'ei ju" is "[cadzu ju citka] je ke [citka ju cadzu] ke'e"

Walking only and only if eating, and eating only and only if eating.

Comment #4: Re: interaction with JA/A
Curtis W Franks (Wed Dec 24 18:50:16 2014)

gleki wrote:
> A copy reformatted:
>
> se je = je. se exchanges the order of first two places.
>
> broda je brode = brode se je broda
>
> su'ei je. su'ei retains the order + exchanges the order + makes two
> previous meanings joined with je since "su'ei = se xi vei pa *.e* re".
>
> So "su'ei je" is just "[broda je brode] je ke [brode je broda] ke'e"
>
> With other prepositions it should become more interesting:
>
> "su'ei jonai" is "[broda jonai brode] je ke [brode jonai broda] ke'e"
> Should we assume that this is self-contradiction or it's the same as
> "broda jonai brode"?
FTTF & FTTF = FTTF. So, just «broda jonai brode».

>
> "su'ei ju" is "[cadzu ju citka] je ke [citka ju cadzu] ke'e"
>
> Walking only and only if eating, and eating only and only if eating.

"Walking regardless of eating, and eating regardless of walking", you
mean?

Comment #6: Re: interaction with JA/A
gleki (Wed Dec 24 19:18:09 2014)

krtisfranks wrote:
> gleki wrote:
> > A copy reformatted:
> >
> > se je = je. se exchanges the order of first two places.
> >
> > broda je brode = brode se je broda
> >
> > su'ei je. su'ei retains the order + exchanges the order + makes two
> > previous meanings joined with je since "su'ei = se xi vei pa *.e*
re".
> >
> > So "su'ei je" is just "[broda je brode] je ke [brode je broda] ke'e"
> >
> > With other prepositions it should become more interesting:
> >
> > "su'ei jonai" is "[broda jonai brode] je ke [brode jonai broda] ke'e"
> > Should we assume that this is self-contradiction or it's the same as
> > "broda jonai brode"?
> FTTF & FTTF = FTTF. So, just «broda jonai brode».
>
> >
> > "su'ei ju" is "[cadzu ju citka] je ke [citka ju cadzu] ke'e"
> >
> > Walking only and only if eating, and eating only and only if eating.
>
> "Walking regardless of eating, and eating regardless of walking", you
> mean?

ouch, it should have been jo!!!

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