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Discussion of "skeku'a"

Comment #1: na mulno mapti zo'oi lab noi glico
gleki (Sat Nov 22 09:55:31 2014)

lab = a workplace for the conduct of scientific research

E.g. field lab.

Thus stuzi might be better.

Comment #2: Re: na mulno mapti zo'oi lab noi glico
Wuzzy (Sat Nov 22 14:08:41 2014)

gleki wrote:
> lab = a workplace for the conduct of scientific research
>
> E.g. field lab.
>
> Thus stuzi might be better.

Thanks for pointing that out, so I added “skestu”. But I think
“skeku'a” may also be an useful word, there’s just not a direct
translation to English for it. So I edited the definition and
disambiguated “laboratory” and “lab” in “room” and
“workplace”.

Comment #3: Re: na mulno mapti zo'oi lab noi glico
Alex Burka (Sat Nov 22 19:35:01 2014)

Wuzzy wrote:
> gleki wrote:
> > lab = a workplace for the conduct of scientific research
> >
> > E.g. field lab.
> >
> > Thus stuzi might be better.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out, so I added “skestu”. But I think
> “skeku'a” may also be an useful word, there’s just not a direct
> translation to English for it. So I edited the definition and
> disambiguated “laboratory” and “lab” in “room” and
> “workplace”.

I know (at least) three senses of the English "lab[oratory]":

1) a room or complex of rooms where science is actually done (chemicals
are mixed, machines constructed, etc)

2) an office/room where one or more scientists work, maybe not doing the
experiments but analyzing data, writing reports, etc

3) a general term for a group of scientists, not even referring to one
place (e.g. a principal investigator may say "In my lab, we study laser
waveguides", and refer to a group of scientists who may not work together
at the same place or time, but collaborate on experiments)

(2) was the sense I needed when I came up with skeku'a but I think it
covers both (1) and (2) (keeping in mind that kumfa1 could be plural, not
just a singular room). skestu seems to also cover (1) and (2). Neither
of them cover (3). Are you thinking of skestu for a science-place which
is not a room (examples I can think of would be an archaeological dig, or
Jane Goodall observing animals)? I wouldn't call that a "lab", so I think
it's skestu that doesn't have a direct English translation.

Comment #4: Re: na mulno mapti zo'oi lab noi glico
Alex Burka (Sat Nov 22 19:37:12 2014)

durka42 wrote:
> Wuzzy wrote:
> > gleki wrote:
> > > lab = a workplace for the conduct of scientific research
> > >
> > > E.g. field lab.
> > >
> > > Thus stuzi might be better.
> >
> > Thanks for pointing that out, so I added “skestu”. But I think
> > “skeku'a” may also be an useful word, there’s just not a direct
> > translation to English for it. So I edited the definition and
> > disambiguated “laboratory” and “lab” in “room” and
> > “workplace”.
>
> I know (at least) three senses of the English "lab[oratory]":
>
> 1) a room or complex of rooms where science is actually done (chemicals
> are mixed, machines constructed, etc)
>
> 2) an office/room where one or more scientists work, maybe not doing the
> experiments but analyzing data, writing reports, etc
>
> 3) a general term for a group of scientists, not even referring to one
> place (e.g. a principal investigator may say "In my lab, we study laser
> waveguides", and refer to a group of scientists who may not work
together
> at the same place or time, but collaborate on experiments)
>
> (2) was the sense I needed when I came up with skeku'a but I think it
> covers both (1) and (2) (keeping in mind that kumfa1 could be plural,
not
> just a singular room). skestu seems to also cover (1) and (2). Neither
> of them cover (3). Are you thinking of skestu for a science-place
which
> is not a room (examples I can think of would be an archaeological dig,
or
> Jane Goodall observing animals)? I wouldn't call that a "lab", so I
think
> it's skestu that doesn't have a direct English translation.

Also, field "labs" and archaeological digs tend to move, so maybe zvati
is better than stuzi, I'm not sure.

Comment #5: Re: na mulno mapti zo'oi lab noi glico
gleki (Sun Nov 23 06:57:54 2014)

durka42 wrote:
> Wuzzy wrote:
> > gleki wrote:
> > > lab = a workplace for the conduct of scientific research
> > >
> > > E.g. field lab.
> > >
> > > Thus stuzi might be better.
> >
> > Thanks for pointing that out, so I added “skestu”. But I think
> > “skeku'a” may also be an useful word, there’s just not a direct
> > translation to English for it. So I edited the definition and
> > disambiguated “laboratory” and “lab” in “room” and
> > “workplace”.
>
> I know (at least) three senses of the English "lab[oratory]":
>
> 1) a room or complex of rooms where science is actually done (chemicals
> are mixed, machines constructed, etc)
>
> 2) an office/room where one or more scientists work, maybe not doing the
> experiments but analyzing data, writing reports, etc
>
> 3) a general term for a group of scientists, not even referring to one
> place (e.g. a principal investigator may say "In my lab, we study laser
> waveguides", and refer to a group of scientists who may not work
together
> at the same place or time, but collaborate on experiments)
>
> (2) was the sense I needed when I came up with skeku'a but I think it
> covers both (1) and (2) (keeping in mind that kumfa1 could be plural,
not
> just a singular room). skestu seems to also cover (1) and (2). Neither
> of them cover (3). Are you thinking of skestu for a science-place
which
> is not a room (examples I can think of would be an archaeological dig,
or
> Jane Goodall observing animals)? I wouldn't call that a "lab", so I
think
> it's skestu that doesn't have a direct English translation.


WordNet 3.0

1. a workplace for the conduct of scientific research
2. a region resembling a laboratory inasmuch as it offers opportunities
for observation and practice and experimentation

American Heritage:
1.
a. A room or building equipped for scientific experimentation or research.
b. An academic period devoted to work or study in such a place.
2. A place where drugs and chemicals are manufactured.
3. A place for practice, observation, or testing.

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