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Discussion of "su'i'u"

Comment #1: selma'o
Alex Burka (Tue Jul 29 19:48:04 2014)

Why CAhA? CAhA can tag sumti. So what does da su'i'u de broda mean?

Comment #2: Re: selma'o
gleki (Wed Jul 30 06:57:37 2014)

durka42 wrote:
> Why CAhA? CAhA can tag sumti. So what does da su'i'u de broda mean?


Not the best example but let ka'e ~ jai cumki. Then

mi ka'e klama = mi jai cumki fai lo ka ce'u klama

mi jo'u do su'i'u sinma = mi jo'u do simxu fe lo ka ce'u ce'u sinma

mi klama ka'e ko'a = mi jai cumki fai lo ka ce'u klama ca ko'a

mi jo'u do sinma su'i'u ko'a = mi jo'u do simxu fe lo ka ce'u ce'u sinma
ca ko'a


Alternatively

mi ka'e klama = cumki fa lo nu mi klama

mi jo'u do su'i'u sinma = *zilsimxu fa lo nu mi jo'u do sinma lo nei

mi klama ka'e ko'a = cumki fa lo nu mi klama ca ko'a

mi jo'u do sinma su'i'u ko'a = *zilsimxu fa lo nu mi jo'u do sinma lo nei
ca ko'a

Comment #3: Re: selma'o
Alex Burka (Wed Jul 30 15:40:17 2014)

All right, interesting. The BPFK section for CAhA says the ka'e-tagged
sumti is an "under conditions" so maybe va'o or fau is better than
ca, but I get the point. It seems kind of superfluous to the meaning of
su'i'u, but okay. My impression is CAhA tagged sumti are rare anyway.

gleki wrote:
> durka42 wrote:
> > Why CAhA? CAhA can tag sumti. So what does da su'i'u de broda mean?
>
>
> Not the best example but let ka'e ~ jai cumki. Then
>
> mi ka'e klama = mi jai cumki fai lo ka ce'u klama
>
> mi jo'u do su'i'u sinma = mi jo'u do simxu fe lo ka ce'u ce'u sinma
>
> mi klama ka'e ko'a = mi jai cumki fai lo ka ce'u klama ca ko'a
>
> mi jo'u do sinma su'i'u ko'a = mi jo'u do simxu fe lo ka ce'u ce'u sinma
> ca ko'a
>
>
> Alternatively
>
> mi ka'e klama = cumki fa lo nu mi klama
>
> mi jo'u do su'i'u sinma = *zilsimxu fa lo nu mi jo'u do sinma lo nei
>
> mi klama ka'e ko'a = cumki fa lo nu mi klama ca ko'a
>
> mi jo'u do sinma su'i'u ko'a = *zilsimxu fa lo nu mi jo'u do sinma lo
nei
> ca ko'a

Comment #4: Re: selma'o
gleki (Wed Jul 30 15:49:01 2014)

durka42 wrote:
> All right, interesting. The BPFK section for CAhA says the ka'e-tagged
> sumti is an "under conditions" so maybe va'o or fau is better than
> ca

Yes, fau as a generalization of ca/bu'u/va'o.

Since many perceive fau not as la gleki then it's better to point at a
better understood cmavo, namely, ca, the most common case of fau.

Comment #5: Re: selma'o
gleki (Fri Dec 12 13:53:03 2014)

gleki wrote:
> durka42 wrote:
> > All right, interesting. The BPFK section for CAhA says the ka'e-tagged
> > sumti is an "under conditions" so maybe va'o or fau is better than
> > ca
>
> Yes, fau as a generalization of ca/bu'u/va'o.
>
> Since many perceive fau not as la gleki then it's better to point at a
> better understood cmavo, namely, ca, the most common case of fau.


downvoted due to su'ei

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