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Discussion of "ne'au"
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Comment #2: Re: Difference from “ge'e”?
Curtis W Franks (Fri May 23 16:50:11 2014)

Wuzzy wrote:
> How does this one differ from ge'e?

It does not have the elliptical aspect to it. Also, "no particular
feeling" can sometimes be different from a very active sense of absence of
emotion. Sometimes, when one focuses, is undergoing clinical depression
(which does not mean only constant sadness), is meditating, etc., one has
purposefully or otherwise actively banished emotion. It is not "no
particular feeling", it is the 'feeling' of emotional absence entirely.

I personally object to ge'e being both elliptical and "no particular
feeling"; those are two distinct meanings to me. This word is related to
the latter and helps separate them out, but it does not solve that
problem.

Comment #3: Re: Difference from “ge'e”?
Alex Burka (Sat May 24 15:56:15 2014)

krtisfranks wrote:
> Wuzzy wrote:
> > How does this one differ from ge'e?
>
> It does not have the elliptical aspect to it. Also, "no particular
> feeling" can sometimes be different from a very active sense of absence
of
> emotion. Sometimes, when one focuses, is undergoing clinical depression
> (which does not mean only constant sadness), is meditating, etc., one
has
> purposefully or otherwise actively banished emotion. It is not "no
> particular feeling", it is the 'feeling' of emotional absence entirely.
>
> I personally object to ge'e being both elliptical and "no particular
> feeling"; those are two distinct meanings to me. This word is related to
> the latter and helps separate them out, but it does not solve that
> problem.


I agree, in the current ma'oste ge'e seems to me to have two different
meanings.

Comment #4: Re: Difference from “ge'e”?
gleki (Sat May 24 19:13:39 2014)

durka42 wrote:
> krtisfranks wrote:
> > Wuzzy wrote:
> > > How does this one differ from ge'e?
> >
> > It does not have the elliptical aspect to it. Also, "no particular
> > feeling" can sometimes be different from a very active sense of
absence
> of
> > emotion. Sometimes, when one focuses, is undergoing clinical
depression
> > (which does not mean only constant sadness), is meditating, etc., one
> has
> > purposefully or otherwise actively banished emotion. It is not "no
> > particular feeling", it is the 'feeling' of emotional absence
entirely.
> >
> > I personally object to ge'e being both elliptical and "no particular
> > feeling"; those are two distinct meanings to me. This word is related
to
> > the latter and helps separate them out, but it does not solve that
> > problem.
>
>
> I agree, in the current ma'oste ge'e seems to me to have two different
> meanings.

ge'e is used both as a separate UI and as a UI-modifier acc. to CLL. For
the latter I once suggested using na'i instead.

Comment #5: Re: Difference from “ge'e”?
Alex Burka (Sat May 24 19:18:32 2014)

gleki wrote:
> durka42 wrote:
> > krtisfranks wrote:
> > > Wuzzy wrote:
> > > > How does this one differ from ge'e?
> > >
> > > It does not have the elliptical aspect to it. Also, "no particular
> > > feeling" can sometimes be different from a very active sense of
> absence
> > of
> > > emotion. Sometimes, when one focuses, is undergoing clinical
> depression
> > > (which does not mean only constant sadness), is meditating, etc.,
one
> > has
> > > purposefully or otherwise actively banished emotion. It is not "no
> > > particular feeling", it is the 'feeling' of emotional absence
> entirely.
> > >
> > > I personally object to ge'e being both elliptical and "no
particular
> > > feeling"; those are two distinct meanings to me. This word is
related
> to
> > > the latter and helps separate them out, but it does not solve that
> > > problem.
> >
> >
> > I agree, in the current ma'oste ge'e seems to me to have two
different
> > meanings.
>
> ge'e is used both as a separate UI and as a UI-modifier acc. to CLL.
For
> the latter I once suggested using na'i instead.

.oi cibysmu

Comment #6: Re: Difference from “ge'e”?
Lorenzo Von Matterhorn (Sun May 25 12:47:31 2014)

durka42 wrote:
> I agree, in the current ma'oste ge'e seems to me to have two different
> meanings.

That's because it's a relative of zo'e, which has the same kind of
duality.

Comment #7: Re: Difference from “ge'e”?
gleki (Fri Nov 21 10:54:47 2014)

krtisfranks wrote:
> Wuzzy wrote:
> > How does this one differ from ge'e?
>
> It does not have the elliptical aspect to it. Also, "no particular
> feeling" can sometimes be different from a very active sense of absence
of
> emotion. Sometimes, when one focuses, is undergoing clinical depression
> (which does not mean only constant sadness), is meditating, etc., one
has
> purposefully or otherwise actively banished emotion. It is not "no
> particular feeling", it is the 'feeling' of emotional absence entirely.
>
> I personally object to ge'e being both elliptical and "no particular
> feeling"; those are two distinct meanings to me. This word is related to
> the latter and helps separate them out, but it does not solve that
> problem.


What about usage examples where ne'au and ne'aunai are used?
Without them it'd be hard to start using this particle.

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