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Discussion of "spaune"

Comment #1: Are conditions the same thing as something that causes something to appear?
Wuzzy (Fri May 23 15:32:36 2014)

I find it confusing that x2 can be considered to be conditions or
something that causes something to appear. I think these are two different
definitions. I suggest to eather drop one of the meanings completely or to
drop one of the meanings and creating a new word for it.

I also want to point to tolcanci, which is similar to that one.

Comment #2: Re: Are conditions the same thing as something that causes something to appear?
gleki (Fri May 23 16:19:45 2014)

Wuzzy wrote:
> I find it confusing that x2 can be considered to be conditions or
> something that causes something to appear. I think these are two
different
> definitions. I suggest to eather drop one of the meanings completely or
to
> drop one of the meanings and creating a new word for it.
>
> I also want to point to tolcanci, which is similar to that one.

"Spontaneous appearance" implies at least two predicates: "s1 (event) is
spontaneous" (spontane), "t1 appears at location t2" (tolcanci)

So is x1 spaune x2 = x1 tolcanci gau x2 fi'o spontane

or more correctly is

lo nu x1 spaune x2 cu fasnu = lo nu x1 tolcanci gau x2 cu fasnu gi'e
spontane ?

Comment #3: Re: Are conditions the same thing as something that causes something to appear?
Curtis W Franks (Fri May 23 16:51:42 2014)

Wuzzy wrote:
> I find it confusing that x2 can be considered to be conditions or
> something that causes something to appear. I think these are two
different

I was debating that issue too.

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