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Discussion of "adverbu"
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Comment #8: Re: The most important adverbs of all
gleki (Tue Sep 1 13:43:54 2015)

gejyspa wrote:
> gleki wrote:
> > gejyspa wrote:
> > > gleki wrote:
> > > > gejyspa wrote:
> > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo,
not
> a
> >
> > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint is

> > about
> > >
> > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different
in
> > > > Russian
> > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what
functions
> as
> >
> > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of are
> > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita that
> are
> > > not.
> > > >
> > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult
to
> > > think
> > > > of
> > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic
> > adverbs
> > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g.
> TAhE).
> >
> > > > But
> > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which,
> yes,
> > > can
> > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be thought

> of
> > as
> > >
> > > > > either a noun or verb):
> > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here)
> > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white house

> is
> > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte
> > >
> > >
> > > uanai
> >
> >
> >
>
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment
> > id=2496;definition=56485
> >
> >
>
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment
> > id=2514;definition=56485
> >
> > la'a samselpla nabmi
>
>
> li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great Suspender

> .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u
> samru'e


ta'o zo la'oi na nelci pe'a me'oi kunti bu i e'u pilno zo la'o

Comment #9: Re: The most important adverbs of all
Michael Turniansky (Tue Sep 1 14:11:37 2015)

gleki wrote:
> gejyspa wrote:
> > gleki wrote:
> > > gejyspa wrote:
> > > > gleki wrote:
> > > > > gejyspa wrote:
> > > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo,

> not
> > a
> > >
> > > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint
is
>
> > > about
> > > >
> > > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different

> in
> > > > > Russian
> > > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what
> functions
> > as
> > >
> > > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of
are
> > > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita
that
> > are
> > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult

> to
> > > > think
> > > > > of
> > > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic
> > > adverbs
> > > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g.
> > TAhE).
> > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which,

> > yes,
> > > > can
> > > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be
thought
>
> > of
> > > as
> > > >
> > > > > > either a noun or verb):
> > > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here)
> > > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white
house
>
> > is
> > > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > uanai
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment
> > > id=2496;definition=56485
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment
> > > id=2514;definition=56485
> > >
> > > la'a samselpla nabmi
> >
> >
> > li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great
Suspender
>
> > .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u
> > samru'e
>
>
> ta'o zo la'oi na nelci pe'a me'oi kunti bu i e'u pilno zo la'o

ki'e .i velsfa fi lo nu troci lo nu pilno lo ninjbovla keiku fa lo nu
srera pilno ny vau zo'o

Comment #9: Re: The most important adverbs of all
Michael Turniansky (Tue Sep 1 14:11:45 2015)

gleki wrote:
> gejyspa wrote:
> > gleki wrote:
> > > gejyspa wrote:
> > > > gleki wrote:
> > > > > gejyspa wrote:
> > > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo,

> not
> > a
> > >
> > > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint
is
>
> > > about
> > > >
> > > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different

> in
> > > > > Russian
> > > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what
> functions
> > as
> > >
> > > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of
are
> > > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita
that
> > are
> > > > not.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult

> to
> > > > think
> > > > > of
> > > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic
> > > adverbs
> > > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g.
> > TAhE).
> > >
> > > > > But
> > > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which,

> > yes,
> > > > can
> > > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be
thought
>
> > of
> > > as
> > > >
> > > > > > either a noun or verb):
> > > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here)
> > > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white
house
>
> > is
> > > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > uanai
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment
> > > id=2496;definition=56485
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment
> > > id=2514;definition=56485
> > >
> > > la'a samselpla nabmi
> >
> >
> > li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great
Suspender
>
> > .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u
> > samru'e
>
>
> ta'o zo la'oi na nelci pe'a me'oi kunti bu i e'u pilno zo la'o

ki'e .i velsfa fi lo nu troci lo nu pilno lo ninjbovla keiku fa lo nu
srera pilno ny vau zo'o

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