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Discussion of "adverbu"
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Comment #6:
Re: The most important adverbs of all
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gleki (Tue Sep 1 06:03:57 2015)
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gejyspa wrote: > gleki wrote: > > gejyspa wrote: > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo, not a
> > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint is about > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different in > > Russian > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what functions as
> > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of are > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita that are > not. > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult to > think > > of > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic adverbs > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g. TAhE). > > But > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which, yes, > can > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be thought of as > > > > either a noun or verb): > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here) > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white house is > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here) > > > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte > > > uanai
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http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment id=2514;definition=56485
la'a samselpla nabmi
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Comment #7:
Re: The most important adverbs of all
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Michael Turniansky (Tue Sep 1 13:35:18 2015)
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gleki wrote: > gejyspa wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > gejyspa wrote: > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo, not a > > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint is > about > > > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different in > > > Russian > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what functions as > > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of are > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita that are > > not. > > > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult to > > think > > > of > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic > adverbs > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g. TAhE). > > > > But > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which, yes, > > can > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be thought of > as > > > > > > either a noun or verb): > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here) > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white house is > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here) > > > > > > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte > > > > > > uanai > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > id=2496;definition=56485 > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > id=2514;definition=56485 > > la'a samselpla nabmi
li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great Suspender .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u samru'e
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Comment #8:
Re: The most important adverbs of all
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gleki (Tue Sep 1 13:43:54 2015)
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gejyspa wrote: > gleki wrote: > > gejyspa wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > gejyspa wrote: > > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo, not > a > > > > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint is
> > about > > > > > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different in > > > > Russian > > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what functions > as > > > > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of are > > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita that > are > > > not. > > > > > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult to > > > think > > > > of > > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic > > adverbs > > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g. > TAhE). > > > > > > But > > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which, > yes, > > > can > > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be thought
> of > > as > > > > > > > > either a noun or verb): > > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here) > > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white house
> is > > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here) > > > > > > > > > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte > > > > > > > > > uanai > > > > > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > > id=2496;definition=56485 > > > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > > id=2514;definition=56485 > > > > la'a samselpla nabmi > > > li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great Suspender
> .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u > samru'e
ta'o zo la'oi na nelci pe'a me'oi kunti bu i e'u pilno zo la'o
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Comment #9:
Re: The most important adverbs of all
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Michael Turniansky (Tue Sep 1 14:11:37 2015)
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gleki wrote: > gejyspa wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > gejyspa wrote: > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > gejyspa wrote: > > > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo,
> not > > a > > > > > > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint is > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different
> in > > > > > Russian > > > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what > functions > > as > > > > > > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of are > > > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita that > > are > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult
> to > > > > think > > > > > of > > > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic > > > adverbs > > > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g. > > TAhE). > > > > > > > > But > > > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which,
> > yes, > > > > can > > > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be thought > > > of > > > as > > > > > > > > > > either a noun or verb): > > > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here) > > > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white house > > > is > > > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte > > > > > > > > > > > > uanai > > > > > > > > > > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > > > id=2496;definition=56485 > > > > > > > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > > > id=2514;definition=56485 > > > > > > la'a samselpla nabmi > > > > > > li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great Suspender > > > .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u > > samru'e > > > ta'o zo la'oi na nelci pe'a me'oi kunti bu i e'u pilno zo la'o
ki'e .i velsfa fi lo nu troci lo nu pilno lo ninjbovla keiku fa lo nu srera pilno ny vau zo'o
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Comment #9:
Re: The most important adverbs of all
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Michael Turniansky (Tue Sep 1 14:11:45 2015)
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gleki wrote: > gejyspa wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > gejyspa wrote: > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > gejyspa wrote: > > > > > > First of all, I hate this word. I think it deserves a lujvo,
> not > > a > > > > > > > > > fu'ivla, but that's neither here nor there. My main complaint is > > > > about > > > > > > > > > > your note. Unless the definition of "adverb" is very different
> in > > > > > Russian > > > > > > than in English, I think you are off the mark about what > functions > > as > > > > > > > > > adverbs in lojban. fi'o and all the sumtcita I can think of are > > > > > > prepositions, not adverbs (although there might be sumtcita that > > are > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > Please provide an example) I would also find it very difficult
> to > > > > think > > > > > of > > > > > > SEI clauses as adverbs. Things that I would class as lojbanic > > > adverbs > > > > > > would include some things we normally think of as tenses (e.g. > > TAhE). > > > > > > > > But > > > > > > the biggest class of all that you have missed is seltau (which,
> > yes, > > > > can > > > > > > also be thought of as adjectives, because a tertau can be thought > > > of > > > as > > > > > > > > > > either a noun or verb): > > > > > > mi sutra bajra (I quickly run. sutra is an adverb here) > > > > > > lo carmi blabi zdani cu ckape desku (that brilliantly white house > > > is > > > > > > dangerously shaking. carmi and ckape are adverbs here) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ue cizra i pa da zo'u do reroi benji da i xu srera se zukte > > > > > > > > > > > > uanai > > > > > > > > > > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > > > id=2496;definition=56485 > > > > > > > > > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/comments.html?valsi=26616;natlangword=0;comment > > > id=2514;definition=56485 > > > > > > la'a samselpla nabmi > > > > > > li'a go'i .i la'a cu'i rinka fa lo nu mi pilno la'oi The Great Suspender > > > .i la'a cu'i lo kibro selfendi za'ure'u > > samru'e > > > ta'o zo la'oi na nelci pe'a me'oi kunti bu i e'u pilno zo la'o
ki'e .i velsfa fi lo nu troci lo nu pilno lo ninjbovla keiku fa lo nu srera pilno ny vau zo'o
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