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Discussion of "vlakemlerpoi"
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Comment #4: Re: Mathematics
Felipe Gonalves Assis (Mon Jan 13 22:35:00 2014)

Wuzzy wrote:
> filipos wrote:
> > I guess you could alternatively use valsi (or a lujvo based on it)
as
> >
> > "x1 is a sequence of generators with value x2 in group presentation
x3",
> No, no, no, NO!
> That’s WAY too far off from the original definitions.
> Those definitions certainly would need new words.

Ok, this is more for fun than for the original point, but here is a PEG
for the Klein group

I <- e I | a A | b B | c C | eps
A <- e A | a I | b C | c B
B <- e B | a C | b I | c A
C <- e C | a B | b A | c I

More trivially, it is straightforward to define an attribute grammar for
computing the product of a sequence of elements.

So, we do have words (the sequences), interpretations for these words (the
values) and rules for how to determine the meaning of a composition of
them from its parts (the group operation).

Comment #5: Re: Mathematics
Curtis W Franks (Tue Jan 14 07:29:34 2014)

filipos wrote:
> Wuzzy wrote:
> > filipos wrote:
> > > I guess you could alternatively use valsi (or a lujvo based on it)
> as
> > >
> > > "x1 is a sequence of generators with value x2 in group presentation
> x3",
> > No, no, no, NO!
> > That’s WAY too far off from the original definitions.
> > Those definitions certainly would need new words.
>
> Ok, this is more for fun than for the original point, but here is a PEG
> for the Klein group
>
> I <- e I | a A | b B | c C | eps
> A <- e A | a I | b C | c B
> B <- e B | a C | b I | c A
> C <- e C | a B | b A | c I
>
> More trivially, it is straightforward to define an attribute grammar for
> computing the product of a sequence of elements.
>
> So, we do have words (the sequences), interpretations for these words
(the
> values) and rules for how to determine the meaning of a composition of
> them from its parts (the group operation).


That is what I was thinking. One could always tack on a seltau indicating
'math'-ness on some level.

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