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Discussion of "vlakemlerpoi"
Comment #1:
Mathematics
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Curtis W Franks (Mon Jan 13 07:23:51 2014)
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Would you recommend using this word for mathematics (where one spells words over some alphabet of, say, group elements, yielding a quantity (which is called the word))?
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Comment #2:
Re: Mathematics
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Felipe Gonalves Assis (Mon Jan 13 08:25:54 2014)
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krtisfranks wrote: > Would you recommend using this word for mathematics (where one spells > words over some alphabet of, say, group elements, yielding a quantity > (which is called the word))?
How do you consider using valsi in a mathematical context?
I would use plain lerpoi (the definition I entered, by tsani), with lerpoi1 being the sequence of generators and lerpoi3 being their value.
ci'e la'o gy.Klein four-group.gy. me'o .abu cmarai lo lerpoi be fi li by. .abu by.
I guess you could alternatively use valsi (or a lujvo based on it) as
"x1 is a sequence of generators with value x2 in group presentation x3",
with valsi2 being the mathematical word.
me'o .abu cmarai lo valsi be li by. .abu by. bei la'o gy.Klein four-group.gy.
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Comment #3:
Re: Mathematics
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Wuzzy (Mon Jan 13 09:12:50 2014)
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filipos wrote: > I would use plain lerpoi (the definition I entered, by tsani), with > lerpoi1 being the sequence of generators and lerpoi3 being their value. > > I guess you could alternatively use valsi (or a lujvo based on it) as > > "x1 is a sequence of generators with value x2 in group presentation x3", No, no, no, NO! That’s WAY too far off from the original definitions. Those definitions certainly would need new words.
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Comment #4:
Re: Mathematics
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Felipe Gonalves Assis (Mon Jan 13 22:35:00 2014)
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Wuzzy wrote: > filipos wrote: > > I guess you could alternatively use valsi (or a lujvo based on it) as > > > > "x1 is a sequence of generators with value x2 in group presentation x3", > No, no, no, NO! > That’s WAY too far off from the original definitions. > Those definitions certainly would need new words.
Ok, this is more for fun than for the original point, but here is a PEG for the Klein group
I <- e I | a A | b B | c C | eps A <- e A | a I | b C | c B B <- e B | a C | b I | c A C <- e C | a B | b A | c I
More trivially, it is straightforward to define an attribute grammar for computing the product of a sequence of elements.
So, we do have words (the sequences), interpretations for these words (the values) and rules for how to determine the meaning of a composition of them from its parts (the group operation).
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Comment #5:
Re: Mathematics
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Curtis W Franks (Tue Jan 14 07:29:34 2014)
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filipos wrote: > Wuzzy wrote: > > filipos wrote: > > > I guess you could alternatively use valsi (or a lujvo based on it) > as > > > > > > "x1 is a sequence of generators with value x2 in group presentation > x3", > > No, no, no, NO! > > That’s WAY too far off from the original definitions. > > Those definitions certainly would need new words. > > Ok, this is more for fun than for the original point, but here is a PEG > for the Klein group > > I <- e I | a A | b B | c C | eps > A <- e A | a I | b C | c B > B <- e B | a C | b I | c A > C <- e C | a B | b A | c I > > More trivially, it is straightforward to define an attribute grammar for > computing the product of a sequence of elements. > > So, we do have words (the sequences), interpretations for these words (the > values) and rules for how to determine the meaning of a composition of > them from its parts (the group operation).
That is what I was thinking. One could always tack on a seltau indicating 'math'-ness on some level.
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