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Discussion of "cipyzu'e"
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Comment #1: jvajvo violation in -zu'e lujvo
gleki (Wed Sep 23 06:20:05 2015)

I thought all -zu'e lujvo were jvajvo but mostly they are not. Their place
structure can't be predicted.

In many cases they retain the place structure of zukte, in some cases they
instead represent the place structure of naltertau with x1 taken from

Additionally, if
cipra = x1 (property of x3) is a test of x2 (property of x3) in x3

zukte = x1 does x2 (property of x1)

then zukte2=cipra1 contains two ce'u, one from zukte1, the other one from
cipra3 which requires additional rules for jvajvo if one wants that.

Without them, cipyzu'e could e.g. mean
retaining cipra places: x1 does a test x2 (property of x1=x3) of x3
(property of x1=x3) in x3=x1

retaining zukte places: x1 does a test x2 (property of x1) to achieve goal

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