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Discussion of "fi'u"
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Alex Burka (Thu May 21 15:37:58 2015)

spheniscine wrote:
> durka42 wrote:
> > krtisfranks wrote:
> > > spheniscine wrote:
> > > > I don't think (fi'u) alone should mean the golden ratio; seems like

> > > > dangerous overloading to me. Should probably be split to a
different
> > > cmavo.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have been meaning to comment on this and say the same thing. At the

> > very
> > > least, a separate cmavo should be optional/available. It also makes
the
>
> > > division symbol (of which there are several, really) conflated with
the
>
> > > symbol for the golden ratio (phi); it is a minor point, but a
potential
>
> > > stumbling block. I do not see the golden ratio as being all that
> > > fundamental for fractions, despite its being "golden".
> >
> > fe'i is the division operator, though. But I can't say I understand
why
>
> > we need both fe'i and fi'u.
> fe'i is in selma'o VUhU and acts as a mathematical operator, connecting

> two numbers. fi'u however is in selma'o PA and acts as part of a
number.
> So (li re fi'u mu fe'i ze fi'u so) means the fraction 2/5 divided by the
> fraction 7/9. The experimental grammar merges VUhU with JOI, making (li
re
> fi'u mu fe'i li ze fi'u so) also acceptable.

I know that, but (li re fe'i mu fe'i vei ze fe'i so) also means that. So
I'm not sure why we need fi'u for "division as a digit".

 Comment #8: Re: Dangerous overloading? Jonathan (Fri May 22 00:42:21 2015) durka42 wrote:> spheniscine wrote:> > durka42 wrote:> > > krtisfranks wrote:> > > > spheniscine wrote:> > > > > I don't think (fi'u) alone should mean the golden ratio; seems like> > > > > > dangerous overloading to me. Should probably be split to a > different > > > > cmavo.> > > > > > > > > > > > I have been meaning to comment on this and say the same thing. At the> > > > very > > > > least, a separate cmavo should be optional/available. It also makes> the> > > > > > division symbol (of which there are several, really) conflated with> the> > > > > > symbol for the golden ratio (phi); it is a minor point, but a > potential> > > > > > stumbling block. I do not see the golden ratio as being all that > > > > fundamental for fractions, despite its being "golden".> > > > > > fe'i is the division operator, though. But I can't say I understand> why> > > > > we need both fe'i and fi'u.> > fe'i is in selma'o VUhU and acts as a mathematical operator, connecting> > > two numbers. fi'u however is in selma'o PA and acts as part of a > number. > > So (li re fi'u mu fe'i ze fi'u so) means the fraction 2/5 divided by the > > fraction 7/9. The experimental grammar merges VUhU with JOI, making (li> re > > fi'u mu fe'i li ze fi'u so) also acceptable.> > I know that, but (li re fe'i mu fe'i vei ze fe'i so) also means that. So > I'm not sure why we need fi'u for "division as a digit".It's just a small semantic difference, even if the mathematical result is the same, I suppose. And li fe'i ci isn't grammatical, while li fi'u ciis.
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