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Discussion of "japyvla"
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Comment #4:
Re: Calque
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Wuzzy (Fri May 15 17:35:01 2015)
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> What about when a "password" is actually a picture, or a geometric pattern > (like on an Android phone), or a biometric?
Invent a new word for it. :P It makes sense to make a distinction between password (in the sense of ???character sequence???) and ???something you do in order to get access to a system???. But if you want to really generic (like you suggested), you might probably just use jaspu.
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Comment #5:
Re: Calque
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Alex Burka (Fri May 15 17:38:08 2015)
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Wuzzy wrote: > > What about when a "password" is actually a picture, or a geometric > pattern > > (like on an Android phone), or a biometric? > > Invent a new word for it. :P
Yeah. I am thinking there could be a (short) word for "thing you do to get access to a system", to which I could append -vla, -xra, -tai, -mivdatni, or whatever. sei ca ca'o pensi
> It makes sense to make a distinction between password (in the sense of > ???character sequence???) and ???something you do in order to get access to > a system???. > But if you want to really generic (like you suggested), you might probably > just use jaspu.
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Comment #6:
Re: Calque
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Wuzzy (Fri May 15 17:40:43 2015)
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> Yeah. I am thinking there could be a (short) word for "thing you do to get > access to a system", to which I could append -vla, -xra, -tai, -mivdatni,
> or whatever. sei ca ca'o pensi
jaspu sounds like a good candidate for this.
One of the glosses of jaspu:
permit ; artifact or document rendering something allowed or legal
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Comment #7:
Re: Calque
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Alex Burka (Fri May 15 17:59:25 2015)
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Wuzzy wrote: > > > Yeah. I am thinking there could be a (short) word for "thing you do to > get > > access to a system", to which I could append -vla, -xra, -tai, -mivdatni, > > > or whatever. sei ca ca'o pensi > > jaspu sounds like a good candidate for this. > > One of the glosses of jaspu: > > permit ; artifact or document rendering something allowed or legal
Now we have gone in a circle :) mu'a japyvla, japxra, japmo'a, japmivdatni .i'epei
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Comment #8:
Re: Calque
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Wuzzy (Fri May 15 18:17:12 2015)
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> Now we have gone in a circle :) mu'a japyvla, japxra, japmo'a, > japmivdatni .i'epei
First, I think jaspu should be at the end, because all these things are more ???types of??? jaspu instead of ???types of picture??? (for example). Second, I disagree with japyvla for the reasons I have already stated (valsi was the problem, not jaspu).
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Comment #9:
Re: Calque
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gleki (Fri May 15 19:09:42 2015)
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durka42 wrote: > Wuzzy wrote: > > > What about when a "password" is actually a picture, or a geometric > > pattern > > > (like on an Android phone), or a biometric? > > > > Invent a new word for it. :P > > Yeah. I am thinking there could be a (short) word for "thing you do to get > access to a system", to which I could append -vla, -xra, -tai, -mivdatni,
> or whatever. sei ca ca'o pensi > > > It makes sense to make a distinction between password (in the sense of > > ???character sequence???) and ???something you do in order to get access > to > > a system???. > > But if you want to really generic (like you suggested), you might > probably > > just use jaspu.
For Tatoeba and Vivaldi I always used cmene/ckiku for "login"/"password".
I dont see any metaphorics here. Just ckiku needs to be defined broader in English without limiting to things that one can touch.
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