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Discussion of "baitni"
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Comment #13:
Re: What type of unit of information?
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Jonathan (Sun Jul 12 05:30:33 2015)
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krtisfranks wrote: > gleki wrote: > > krtisfranks wrote: > > > gleki wrote: > > > > spheniscine wrote: > > > > > OK terbri added. > > > > > > > > > > > > Not to baitni yet. Strange that we have bi- prefix for nats. > > > > > > Well, Lojban can just ignore it. "rel" would be the way to go for a > fully > > > > > Lojbanic rendering; there is no particular reason for a Lojban speaker > to > > > > > associate this "bai"/"bi" with anything in particular. So, for them, it > > > is > > > just a relic of the borrowing, and the one word "bit"/"byte" stands in > > for > > > all units of information. > > > > > > The binary metric prefixes (IEC prefixes) would not apply to nats. > > > > > > Now that I think about it, I am not sure that it is natural (or even > > > common) to define a collection of nats in a way that is analogous to > the > > > relationship between a byte and a bit. I seriously doubt that it is > eight > > > > > nats that comprise this unit. > > > > > > Okay, what about trytes? > > That is more problematic and should be addressed. I think that the common
> grouping is six trits to the tryte (which still seems a bit weird to me > from a mathematical perspective). We should be able to say that.
lu <bitnymei be li xa bei li ci be'o cei traitni ca'e> li'u mu'a
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Comment #14:
Re: What type of unit of information?
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Jonathan (Sun Jul 12 05:35:47 2015)
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spheniscine wrote: > krtisfranks wrote: > > gleki wrote: > > > krtisfranks wrote: > > > > gleki wrote: > > > > > spheniscine wrote: > > > > > > OK terbri added. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not to baitni yet. Strange that we have bi- prefix for nats. > > > > > > > > Well, Lojban can just ignore it. "rel" would be the way to go for a
> > fully > > > > > > > Lojbanic rendering; there is no particular reason for a Lojban > speaker > > to > > > > > > > associate this "bai"/"bi" with anything in particular. So, for them, > it > > > > > is > > > > just a relic of the borrowing, and the one word "bit"/"byte" stands
> in > > > for > > > > all units of information. > > > > > > > > The binary metric prefixes (IEC prefixes) would not apply to nats. > > > > > > > > Now that I think about it, I am not sure that it is natural (or even > > > > common) to define a collection of nats in a way that is analogous to > > the > > > > relationship between a byte and a bit. I seriously doubt that it is
> > eight > > > > > > > nats that comprise this unit. > > > > > > > > > Okay, what about trytes? > > > > That is more problematic and should be addressed. I think that the common > > > grouping is six trits to the tryte (which still seems a bit weird to me
> > from a mathematical perspective). We should be able to say that. > > > lu <bitnymei be li xa bei li ci be'o cei traitni ca'e> li'u mu'a .y. oise'i
.i je'au lu <lo ka ce'u traitni ca'e ce'u cu ka ce'u bitnymei ce'u li xa li ci> li'u
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