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Discussion of "tarmrclefli"
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Comment #3: Re: Support
Wuzzy (Fri Jun 26 14:27:14 2015)

krtisfranks wrote:
> I presently do not know how to support the usage/description of Schlafli
> symbols. Moreover, my current definition mentions "similar to the
regular
> polytope described by Schlafli symbol" (rather than simply but more
> properly/exactly "the regular polytope described by Schlafli symbol"); if

> too little support exists, I recommend the maintenance of the current
> definition, that way irregular polytopes can easily be described (as we
> just for them to be regular by appending the seltau for "regular" before
> this word); if enough support is given, it might be okay to change the
> definition so as to reference only the exact polytope given by the
Schlafli
> symbol (which classically is regular but with certain operators, becomes
> semiregular, etc.), but doing so may not be practically advantageous. For

> example, rectangles can be described by x, where "x" is a Cartesian
> product, but that is much harder to say than "similar to 4"; the
current
> definition would allow for the latter, although confusion between
> quadrilaterals would ensue (which can be mopped up via tanru, clauses,
> etc.), but the more restrictive definition would necessitate the use of
> only the former. The current definition make x = 4, which is
somewhat
> wasteful, not to mention annoying to mathematicians who actually want to
be
> careful/distinguish these objects.
> So, what are your opinions on:
> 1) How should we support Schlafli symbol notation?
> 2) Which definition should be used given the support that you described?
>
> Note: represents a line segment.

I can't help much here because I don't know anything about the concept in
question.
If you can't decide for one fu'ivla which makes you happy, then
maybe create multiple cibyfu'ivla for similar Schl?fli-related concepts,
just change the ?topic rafsi? as needed.

For example, simsrclefli if you want to emphasize similarity, instead of
an exact match, etc.

Comment #4: Re: Support
Curtis W Franks (Sat Jun 27 04:16:38 2015)

Wuzzy wrote:
> krtisfranks wrote:
> > I presently do not know how to support the usage/description of
Schlafli
> > symbols. Moreover, my current definition mentions "similar to the
> regular
> > polytope described by Schlafli symbol" (rather than simply but more
> > properly/exactly "the regular polytope described by Schlafli symbol");
if
>
> > too little support exists, I recommend the maintenance of the current
> > definition, that way irregular polytopes can easily be described (as we

> > just for them to be regular by appending the seltau for "regular"
before
> > this word); if enough support is given, it might be okay to change the
> > definition so as to reference only the exact polytope given by the
> Schlafli
> > symbol (which classically is regular but with certain operators,
becomes
> > semiregular, etc.), but doing so may not be practically advantageous.
For
>
> > example, rectangles can be described by x, where "x" is a Cartesian

> > product, but that is much harder to say than "similar to 4"; the
> current
> > definition would allow for the latter, although confusion between
> > quadrilaterals would ensue (which can be mopped up via tanru, clauses,
> > etc.), but the more restrictive definition would necessitate the use of

> > only the former. The current definition make x = 4, which is
> somewhat
> > wasteful, not to mention annoying to mathematicians who actually want
to
> be
> > careful/distinguish these objects.
> > So, what are your opinions on:
> > 1) How should we support Schlafli symbol notation?
> > 2) Which definition should be used given the support that you
described?
> >
> > Note: represents a line segment.
>
> I can't help much here because I don't know anything about the concept in

> question.
> If you can't decide for one fu'ivla which makes you happy, then
> maybe create multiple cibyfu'ivla for similar Schl?fli-related concepts,
> just change the ?topic rafsi? as needed.
>
> For example, simsrclefli if you want to emphasize similarity, instead
of
> an exact match, etc.

Good idea. I am going to mull it over a bit and then possibly use that
idea, depending on my finalized thoughts. Thanks!

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