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Discussion of "fi'u"
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Comment #8: Re: Dangerous overloading?
Jonathan (Fri May 22 00:42:21 2015)

durka42 wrote:
> spheniscine wrote:
> > durka42 wrote:
> > > krtisfranks wrote:
> > > > spheniscine wrote:
> > > > > I don't think (fi'u) alone should mean the golden ratio; seems
like
>
> > > > > dangerous overloading to me. Should probably be split to a
> different
> > > > cmavo.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have been meaning to comment on this and say the same thing. At
the
>
> > > very
> > > > least, a separate cmavo should be optional/available. It also makes

> the
> >
> > > > division symbol (of which there are several, really) conflated with

> the
> >
> > > > symbol for the golden ratio (phi); it is a minor point, but a
> potential
> >
> > > > stumbling block. I do not see the golden ratio as being all that
> > > > fundamental for fractions, despite its being "golden".
> > >
> > > fe'i is the division operator, though. But I can't say I understand

> why
> >
> > > we need both fe'i and fi'u.
> > fe'i is in selma'o VUhU and acts as a mathematical operator,
connecting
>
> > two numbers. fi'u however is in selma'o PA and acts as part of a
> number.
> > So (li re fi'u mu fe'i ze fi'u so) means the fraction 2/5 divided by
the
> > fraction 7/9. The experimental grammar merges VUhU with JOI, making (li

> re
> > fi'u mu fe'i li ze fi'u so) also acceptable.
>
> I know that, but (li re fe'i mu fe'i vei ze fe'i so) also means that. So
> I'm not sure why we need fi'u for "division as a digit".
It's just a small semantic difference, even if the mathematical result is
the same, I suppose. And li fe'i ci isn't grammatical, while li fi'u ci
is.

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